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Re: Telephone headset for blind individuals who work with screen reading software!

From: Panthera Altaica <>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:25:04 -0800 (PST)

--- Doug Sutherland <> wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> 
>  > I think they stopped teaching economics in schools. :-)
> 
> I took both micro and macro economics, but I don't know
> what that has to do with the price of lasagna ...

Easy you can charge as much people are willing to pay. The terminal
cost.  $15k becose people are willing to pay $15k for it.  

>  > For small production runs, per unit costs can be very high.
>  > It's not the common parts.  It's the costs of design,
>  > manufacturing, marketing, etc. a product with a limited
>  > market -- those costs have to be spread across fewer
>  > units than mass-market products.  It's the same reason
>  > a Twiddler2 costs what it does.  And, sadly, HMDs.
> 
> But $15k for a terminal is still astonishing, and they
> are much more prevalent than twiddler or HMD, there are
> quite a few vendors and they are widely used.

But they all are chargeing ruffy the same price and suposibly people
are byeing them. and of course they cost more then the tweedler , the
tweedler has to cost less becouse it's users could use a normal $5
keyboard.

> 
> I have been looking at all of the assistive devices I
> can find for years. There is more than 'normal' economics
> going on ... IMO the prices are inflated ... just my own
> opinion ... mebbe I shud go back to school :)

Classic Economic Anarhy, better know as capitolism, at work.  

> 
> Think on that number for a while $15k buys you a brand
> new car ... or several huge projection TVs ...
> 
> Here's a braille cell ... 5 VDC ... 3 wire serial
> multidrop interface ... how much design do you think
> is required to make it into a terminal?
> 
> http://www.robotron.net.au/braillecell.htm
> 
> I think people are taking advantage of this niche market
> for assistive devices, and I find that to be a very sad
> thing, because it keeps tech away from people who really
> need it ... name another component that costs $15k ...
> With the state of tech something is wrong when braille
> terminals cost more than cars ...

Caitolism dosn't make good products it makes The Best and as the old
adage goes "The best does not equal good"

I'm not useing 'you' refering Doug specificaly but to people(1) in
general

The world isn't a good place and I know it take nothing less than a
TEOTWAWKI to shake your
unquestion faith in your dream world and courage not to turn a bind eye
to what is happeing 
around you to get you to even consiter it.  September 11 2001 was the
day the last remaining 
ruble from my own TEOTWAIKI, witch happened years earlyer, was hauled
away, But perhaps it 
was your TEOTWAWKI or your may experace a TEOTWAWKI in the future. With
George 'Wag the Dog' 
Bush and the Project for the New American Century in charge of a world
superpower that seems 
rather likey(2).

Stanley Milgram's  experment showed that 60-85+% of people are, what
were described by the psychologists as, "pathological sadists".
It should NOT be surprizeing to find out obediance is so over power to
peoples sence so right and wronge.   
How many times have you told your kids to obay authority? Now compare
than to how many times they have been told to obay.  Have you taught
your kids disobediance to authority when they think they are right? 
When has any one ever been told to disobay authority?  

I have never seen it say 'obay any order that doesn't go against your
consciene' at best it's 'obay any afull order' 

At the begining of every school year students are requiredd to sign a
paper saying they will obay the teachers.
Laws like this are common in the US and I bet it is the same elsewhere
"Section 9.04.030 - Failure to obey a lawful order of a police officer 
It is unlawful for any person to fail to obey the lawful order of a
police officer. A lawful order is that order issued by a police officer
in the exercise of his assigned duties relating to the enforcement of
the penal law or the preservation of the peace or the protection of the
safety of a person. A police officer may issue a lawful order while
performing his assigned duties or preserving the peace or protecting
the safety of a person when in uniform, or, if not in uniform, after
having identified himself as a police officer. (Ord. 3221 § 1, 1985) "

And that's just  thare obedience to stranger paying them $4.50,
goverments have a heck of a lot more athority than that.
  Here is what I hear on the BBC World Servis the other day on a report
about the PatRiot act.
Neal Coonerty, "Every ounce of my body tells me to resist this and not
give them the information but if I do they could confisate my store."(I
trarnscribed that my self off the air so it may not be exact)

we teach obediance over conscience so why does it surprize us?

> 
>    -- Doug
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>How does anyone afford assistive tech?
> >
> >Many ways:
> >It's more important than other things they could buy.
> >
> >It may be purchased by a company as part of a reaonable
> >accomodation of a disabled person per the ADA (in the
> >US).
> >
> >Covered by insurance as part of rehabilitation?
> >
> >Steve
> >--
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> >This message contains 100% my opinions.
> >
> >
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1. The old Homo sapien definition not the new posthumanic "A thing
under 
the tutelage of state with a large army" where Microsoft is consitered
a 
human(Becouse it is a USA citizen) but the 'detainees' from the 'war on

terrorism' becouse aren't citizens of any country.  

Does the Declaration of Independence states, We hold these truths to be

self-evident, that all men are created equal,..." not "...all citizens 
become equal on thear 21 birthday,."

This is truely a Post-Humanic era for We finaly reconize all humans as 
equal, but not leting go of our thrown above all others at the enter of

the universe We replace crys of "They aren't people for they are not 
human,  deserving not better treatment than any other animal." with
crys 
of "They aren't people for they are not citizens, deserving not better 
treatment than any other animal."   Where we used charges of heresy to 
defend this position we now use the charge of unethical to pervent
anyone
from questioning it. 

2. "The Project for the New American Century is a non-profit
educational organization dedicated to a few fundamental propositions:
that American leadership is good both for America and for the world;
that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and
commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today
are making the case for global leadership." from thare website
and the rest of the world seem to be happy just bitching about it tell
the guns are point at them.

NPR segment about PNAC
http://www.npr.org/dmg/dmg.php?prgCode=FA&showDate=01-Apr-2003&segNum=1&NPRMediaPref=RM

the next segment withsomeone some the  Project for the New American
Century
http://www.npr.org/dmg/dmg.php?prgCode=FA&showDate=01-Apr-2003&segNum=2&NPRMediaPref=RM

#eof

=====
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Then they came for the File Swappers and I did not speak out because I was not a File Swapper.
Then they came for the Arabs and I did not speak out because I was not an Arab.
Then....
Dr. Panthera Tigris Altaica

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