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Re: I need a new cell phone. (Let's play Spend Rob's Money!)

From: mike preston <>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:09:43 +0000

I'll intersperse my comments with yours omitting makes and models except
where I have something specific to say...

Robin Hood wrote:

 ><snip>
 >Get a new basic phone issued to me with my new service or keeping my 
current
 >non-wearable-usable cellphone.
 >
 >
nice cheap option, the route I have taken in previous years when I
routinely had to lug around a laptop for my job.
Most modern cell phones have at the very least circuit switch data
capability and many more have gprs and possibly bluetooth. nice features
if you do end up dropping it into a wearable.

 >Buy a new phone that can be used as a phone NOW and assimilated into a
 >wearable collective LATER.
 >
 >
I suppose this is covered by some of the more advanced phones above or
by stuff like the new handspring treo 600 (my new phone in fact (nice
phone, much software availible and fairly cheap in the uk))
This would be my prefered option if I was in your position (which in a
way I am) (there is software availible for the treo 600 to use it as an
modem, although this is not how it comes out of the box. (it also means
that since it is a pretty hefty processor in its own right you could
write some pretty advanced compression schemes if you are willing to go
via your own proxy... On a slightly related note, I'm attempting to code
some xml-rpc stuff for the treo to allow me to offload some of the
processing to a system on the net.)

 >Buying a phone card that can plug into a wearable of some type (leaning
 >toward just buying a Cappucino/Mocah like this
 >http://www.cappuccinopc.com/mochae7042b.asp and being done with it). 
You CAN
 >recieve calls on these... right? (if not, then this option is 
automatically
 >disqualified)
 >

The only card phone I have experience with is the nokia datacard which
required the power of a pcmcia slot to operate. This means that unless
it was installed in a pc it was unusable. Other manufacturers maybe
slightly different.

 >
 >What is the current "state of the art" in card based cell phones? Have 
they
 >gone the way of the dodo? Are manufacturers assuming that people only want
 >data on their laptops these days and that everybody is going to have a
 >seperate phone device? Wouldn't you know it, option 3 is the one that I
 >really really wanna go with.
 >
 >
iirc 28.8kbps using hscsd on gsm unsure about gprs capability, unsure
about cdma based phones.
Modern models may easily exceed this spec.

 >I don't particularly want another piece of hardware to keep up with 
and keep
 >charged and worry about. If I can consolidate it all into one unit that'll
 >be awesome.
 >
 >
There are battery savers for many mobile phones that take 4 AA cells and
output a voltage suitible to charge/operate the phone from. These can
easily be hacked to run from external battery packs, as can car chargers.

 >Yes, I know I can get cellphones that browse the internet, or pocket PCs
 >that let me make calls, and some will take pictures while others will play
 >MP3s or even games... but they don't run ALL of MY applications in  MY
 >preferred environment,  and I can't MODIFY it to be the way I WANT. 
Harumph
 >indeed!
 >
 >
Treo 600 is Palm OS based and as such can be coded in standard C,  or
even a java derivitive called waba iirc.
Most of the development tools are free with the exclusion of many of the
commercial applications.

If you desire any specific questions answered feel from to drop me a line.

 >Robin
 >(who wants to program whilst listening to MP3s and reading his 
webcomics and
 >forums and capturing audio and video for blackma^H^H^H^H^H^H^H fun and
 >profit on a powerfull processor with SCADS of storage space. :)  Who 
needs a
 >laptop/pda/cell phone/ipod/camcorder anyway? )
 >
 >
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